Three Square Meals Ch. 120

This comment section needs to be purged of Michael56Smith.

Cliffhanger, damn! So, how are they going to get out of this one? And what about Faye and the Nymphs? It doesn't look good for our heroes, .... stay tuned, .... ;-) ttfn

Another 'will we ever find out?' The fate of Jessica's stolen Corvette, ... it was in for maintenance (non-worrying upgrade issue) and might have eventually developed some problems later, ... did Rahn get rid of it? Or is it in some big storage area in the old Dreadnaught (so it won't give them away - not covered by stealth field), .... if it was inside the old Dreadnaught, then Gahl'kalgor blasted it to pieces along with Rahn old ride, ... the two of them could have used ut to get out that world, ... make supply runs, .... getting: food, seeds, shoes, work clothes and gloves, gardening tools, ... Terran food and drink that will not go bad on them, ... misc. tools and appliances, ... some music, games, books, other entertainments, ...

--- So, did Rahn decide they didn't need the weak little ship, and send it off, into the sun? or was it used for some supply runs, then stored out of the way, ...? Inquiring minds want to know, ... ;-) ttfn

The Invictus is cut in two, the power is shut down to Faye and turned off to the rest of the ship, the Nymphs are all falling to their deaths, and the captured Raptor is ripped open, John was removed, and all of the girls are still in the Raptor when Larn'kelnar just tossed the damaged little vessel out into the harsh cold vacuum of space, .... forget about saving Rahn'hagon, who's going to save all of them? and who will they lose? There is no time to save anybody, ... Wow, talk about a cliffhanger end to the chapter, ... OMG, what's next? :-l ttfn

Will we ever find out? ... -- Climbing the illuminated steps up to the Command Podium, the petite and perky purple sprite sat down in John's chair, tucking her feet underneath her. It had just turned 11:00 pm, so she decided to check on the crew, flicking through the internal security cameras ... Faye desperately wanted to talk to John about something she'd seen on the security cameras, but he'd been busy all evening and she hadn't had an opportunity. ... we may never know, huh Tef? ... ;-) ttfn

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"There! I've found it!"

R I P Faye hopefully if you are restored/reanimated in a not so distance chapter John ups his game and grants your wish he's a God just gotta start acting like one

Okay, was it just Faye's server taken out, (power interrupted?) or has John heard the last of Faye's angelic voice in the morning? come on next installment, ... and did Rahn get rid of that old Corvette that Jessica stole 4 decades ago? ...

-- I liked the Raptor, and I really liked Faye, ... Tef has sure shaken things up, ...

--- And is there any kind of. useful in this situation, Emergency kit aboard the Raptor, and would one of the girls think to grab it? you know like some water, and a big stack of nutra-bars, a few weapons and ammo (4 pistols), and maybe a bar or two of Crystal Alyssium to make other things with, ... also a short-range communicator (to call the Invictus and Faye?), and a compact scanning device, (but Dana can largely do that), and a med kit (but Rachel has that covered), ... ;-) ttfn

"Faye desperately wanted to talk to John about something she'd seen on the security cameras, but he'd been busy all evening and she hadn't had an opportunity." ... and she never got the chance to talk with John about what she saw, .... this is a Tefler 'crumb' for us that he will explain later, possibly much later, .... I had been hoping that it was something related to Larn'kelnar, like a Progenitor tech probe, that might have recorded our Faye and aid in bringing her back, but that doesn't seem to be the case, ... so, what did Faye see? that she felt could wait a day or two, ... ;-) TTFN

Amazing the contrasts in the comments, no idea why some are reading this if they think it's drivel.

Was expecting some action but not for John to be captured and the Invictus incinerated like that. Suppose the girls survive and will have to start the fight back somehow?

5⛤

You hated this story from chapter 1. Every single comment you post is a heap of disparaging bile.

The fact that I have this playing in a TTS reader may be my fault but to hear your verbal vomitus after every chapter really gets my blood pressure up because I know that it's all bullshit.

"The story had merit up until this point. I see no reason to piss any more time away on such nonsense."

Really? Do us all a favor and fuck right off then. But I know you won't. After all, you said the same shit multiple times before. You wouldn't still be reading at chapter 120 if that was true.

Your dirty little secret is that you actually love it.

And so, I fully and regrettably expect to hear from you again.

pathetic

The overuse of artistic license is beyond merit. At this point, the "author" is literally pulling shit out of ts wrinkled, withered ass and expecting the mindless soy-boi reader to drop the hot pockets they were eating in mommy's basement while indulging in this ridiculous escapade.

The story had merit up until this point. I see no reason to piss any more time away on such nonsense.

Smokepole

***SPOILER ALERT*** chapters #155 and #156, FAYE!!! Kythshara, Mael'neraks laboratory,... Rachel, Irillith and Dana make some AWESOME magic, ... ;-) TTFN

... FAYE! sob, sniffle,... I miss her, ... '-) TTFN

Someone get Baby-John his dummy... always distracted by doing nothing and needet some slapping to get his bearings

Witness the power of a real progenitor, Larn'Kelnar. I guess that I wouldn't have been too disturbed if this was the end of the series for John and just saw Larn play universal domination.

John finally got to meet his long-lost mother, he also found out who is father is/was. , The Invictus was cur in to pieces and yet it was poor Faye's server being blasted to bits that was the BIG moment this chapter, Even John being captured by Larn'kelnar, and the girls then tossed out into space, were less than Faye's loss... and just what did she see on the security cameras that she wanted to talk to John about? Will Jessica ever see her beloved Rahn'hagon again? Will Jessica ever apologize to her son? Will Tefler ever stop teasing and tormenting his readers? - not too bloody likely... ;-) TTFN

This is my fifth or sixth time doing a read through and this is still by far the saddest chapter so far, Faye’s death hits very hard every time I read this chapter, she never got her third date, never got to speak with John about what she had seen on the internal cameras, never got the chance to share her creations with the Invictus organic crew, so many things left undone and she really was the sweetest girl onboard. R.I.P. Faye.

I hate this chapter. It's my second time around reading up to this point and I remembered what would happen before starting reading this. The happy and loving start to the chapter was nice but knowing it was going to take a real dive later on, tainted the whole chapter with an air of foreboding for me. It's a great read but a real downer.

I guess it was designed to be an emotional rollercoaster by it's anarchic architect. Damn you Tefler!!!

The flames burnt the moth of vain hopes. The lullaby of the breeze carries it to sleep as it is consumed by stars and naught but ash remain.

I am up to Ch. 134 and haven't seen an answer to:

"Faye desperately wanted to talk to John about something she'd seen on the security cameras, but he'd been busy all evening and she hadn't had an opportunity."

and mentioned again:

"Faye briefly considered talking to him about what she'd seen on the internal cameras, but glancing up at his face, she saw the weariness there and decided to let him sleep; it could always wait until tomorrow."

What did she see??

A question for you: 4 decades earlier, Jessica stole a smallish space ship ( a Corvette class ) and used it to return to her Rahn. It was due maintenance when she took it, and likely had yet to be fully restocked on consumables, but since a ship of that class would have a crew of approximately 16 ( refer to Calara's Griffon of the same class ), there should have still been some useful supplies aboard, and having even a small and older model space craft (much below Progenitor standards ), it would allow the two of them some FTL excursions. So because the Invictus scans didn't pick it up, I'd like to know what happened to that old getaway ship? Did they use it to loot some more supplies? Did they send it off, an empty derelict? It could've given them an emergency way off planet, even if Rahn thought it way too flimsy a craft,.. huh? A missing episode or two from Jessica and Rahn's 40 years on Arcadia. Enquiring minds would find a Tefler, lost episode, it be fun and entertaining. Or at least a small flash back paragraph or two when Jessica finally gets to hug her baby boy, and they do some catching up ( you know that they will eventually get there ).

In TSM (chapters 1-126), Tefler is presenting progenitor roles, functions, orientations, and history. The individual progenitors described and their subsequent actions reflect different approaches. John history includes living with his grandparents for approximately 18 years, and serving in the Terran Federation military. Thought it would be interesting to review the references to John's grandparents between chapters 1 and 120 since they may have had an effect on his orientation which may be considered a unique variation compared to other progenitors. At the awards ceremony in chapter 83, John mentions the influence of his military experiences. The speech is quoted at the end.

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... at least he had grandparents who had loved him dearly and had looked after him in his formative years.

ch 12

"My grandparents owned a restaurant, and my grandmother was a phenomenal chef," John explained. "I grew up with them and spent a lot of my formative years helping out in her kitchen."

ch16

He entered the well stocked kitchen and grabbed sheets of pasta, white sauce, herbs and the ingredients for a tasty homemade Bolognese sauce that his grandmother had taught him decades ago.

ch20

"It's ok honey, I had loving grandparents that looked after me."

ch22

When I worked at my grandparents restaurant, they had half a dozen waitresses who were always trying to get me involved in their petty spiteful games. I think they thought I was a prize being the owner's grandson, so they were always trying to seduce me." he said with an exasperated sigh.

ch31

"John cooks all our dinners for us," Calara explained, moving around the kitchen, pressing buttons to unfold racks of knives and chopping boards. "His grandparents owned a restaurant and taught him to cook, he's an excellent chef!"

ch55

"I don't know who my father was, and my mother disappeared shortly after I was born. I grew up with my grandparents, but they passed away fairly recently. I was on my own for a while, but I've grown close to my crew, and I consider them my family now."

ch58

He smiled at Faye ... "One of the hardest lessons for someone as they grow up, is finding out that things you were taught as a child might not necessarily be true. My grandparents seemed like they knew the answer to all life's mysteries when I was a boy, but as I grew older, it was a shock to suddenly realise they weren't always right. You just have to adapt and then make up your own mind, evaluating the situation based on your experiences."

ch59

"I grew up in the Terran Federation, and served in the military for many years. My mother and grandparents are all Terran, and I feel a great deal of affinity with the Federation," he said in a quiet voice. Turning to look at Devereux ....

ch60

The last time his heart had ached this badly was when he'd lost his grandparents, and the sense of loss was overwhelming.

ch61

The last time his heart had ached this badly was when he'd lost his grandparents, and the sense of loss was overwhelming.

ch63

It only took twenty minutes to cook dinner, because they were using one of the old-fashioned style of ovens. They could have used one of the standard molecule agitating ovens and it would have been ready in less than a minute, but he was convinced that it tasted better being cooked the other way. His grandmother had always insisted on cooking all her dishes in an old oven, and he liked to think of it as a tribute to her.

ch64

"However, I grew up with Terran grandparents, and joined the military because I'm loyal to the Terran Federation."

ch67

... "I really loved my grandparents; they were kind, generous people who took me in when my mother abandoned me. I'm sure I sound terribly ungrateful, but despite everything they did for me, I always wanted to be part of a big family ....

ch70

"Your grandparents demanded that you be relinquished to their care, and they became your legal guardians. You already know the rest: your mother was declared legally dead, and your grandparents took care of you."

ch72

"I feel like I'm being melodramatic, getting upset over it. You've been through far worse than me, and at least I had my grandparents to look after me growing up."

ch81

John retrieved his favourite chopping knife, then went to work, following the instructions from both girls as he went through the numerous steps to prepare the food. It felt strange to be the one learning a recipe rather than teaching it and he couldn't help reminiscing back to happy times spent with his grandparents in their restaurant. His grandmother, Eva, had been in charge of the kitchen. She was a kind but no-nonsense head chef and as long as you followed her instructions to the letter, you'd be guaranteed to stay on her good side. He'd occasionally helped his grandfather, Don, run front of house, but it always seemed a frantic and chaotic experience that John had never really enjoyed. By contrast, the kitchen was a place of order, with meticulous rules to define every recipe. The exact number of seconds to let a dish simmer, measuring the weight of ingredients, then making sure to add them at precisely the right time... That sanctuary of order and discipline was where he'd always felt the most comfortable ... It had been in the kitchen of his grandparents' restaurant that he'd finally built up his courage to tell them of his plans for the future. John had always known that they'd hoped he'd take over the restaurant one day, running the family business that had been in Blake hands for several generations. He could still remember the look of shock on their faces when he informed them that he'd chosen to follow his mother's footsteps and join the Terran Federation military instead. There had been heated words and impassioned arguments before they relented, but that fleeting look of despair they'd shared had always stayed with him - their fear that they might lose their grandson in the same way that they'd lost their daughter.

ch93

... beginning with how he'd grown up with his grandparents, helping them run their restaurant. The Nymph seemed to delight in reading his thoughts and she began to ask about his time in the military, prompting him to talk about his friends and colleagues, the battles he'd fought in, and the reasons why he'd eventually retired.

ch94

"My grandparents did a great job of giving me a loving childhood, but there was always that nagging doubt at the back of my mind; about why my real parents didn't want me... I don't want my children to ever feel that way," he said, gazing into her eyes.

ch96

"I don't know how much you know about my past, but my mother went missing just after I was born. I still don't really know what happened to her, not exactly, although Calara managed to piece together most of it. Jessica Blake basically encountered a Progenitor, got pregnant with me, then her crew dragged her home to Terran Space where I was born. We think she murdered her shipmates then ran off to rejoin my father, so I was brought up by my grandparents instead" ... "My grandfather was a good man. He cared a great deal for his family, and loved me and my grandmother very much. He never had a cross word for anyone and was always there to listen to my problems, no matter how trivial. He was strong and stoic, never complaining, but always around to help solve any crisis. In all the years I knew him, I never saw him lose his temper or get upset, and he made providing for his family look like it was the easiest thing in the world." "I was eighteen when I told my grandparents I wanted to join the military. I knew how much they'd hate the idea, having lost their only daughter after she joined up, but I couldn't face the thought of running a restaurant for the rest of my life. I was young and headstrong, eager for adventure, so despite their best efforts to convince me otherwise, I enlisted in the marines." "It was my last night at home before I was to ship out for the Academy, eager to start my training as a junior officer. I was so excited I could hardly sleep, and after lying awake in bed for hours, I decided to go and get a drink of water. My grandparents were in their sixties back then and they used to be in bed by ten most nights, getting up early the next day to open the restaurant. So when I crept across the landing, trying not to wake them as it was well-past midnight, I was surprised to hear noises coming from downstairs." "I knew all the creaky floorboards, so I tiptoed down them without making a sound, ready to rush any intruder that had dared to break into our home. It came as a real surprise when I realised that the noise I heard was someone crying, and when I reached the hall, I was stunned to see it was my grandfather in the lounge. He was sitting on the sofa, staring at a picture of my mother, Jessica Blake; it was taken on her eighteenth birthday, the day she enlisted." "My grandfather had always been so resilient, so to see him sobbing his heart out over his daughter came as a real shock." John's face was filled with remorse as he continued, "Then I suddenly realised that it was my fault. I'd done that to him by enlisting, dredging up all those long-buried feelings of grief and loss. I was the only family they had left and I was following my mother into the military; it must have been like losing Jessica all over again." "Our relationship changed after that day... it was never quite the same. My grandparents still loved me, but I knew they were disappointed that I'd spurned their dreams of me taking over the family business. They'd been grooming me to run the restaurant for years, but I was just as selfish as my mother and abandoned them, just like she had." "They sold the business a couple of years before I retired from the marines; I think they gave up all hope that I'd ever come back to it. I can understand how they got that impression, because at that time I was career military all the way. When I did eventually quit and return to civilian life, it was too late. I knew how much they missed that life and I could tell they felt guilty for selling the restaurant, because it had been in the family for generations" ... They both lost some of their spark when they sold the restaurant and it was sad to see them like that when they'd been such larger-than-life characters. They both passed away last year, so now it's too late to make amends."

ch96

"Running the family restaurant was your grandparents' dream, not yours. You can't blame yourself for wanting to follow your own path and it wasn't fair of them to put that burden of responsibility on you, not when you were so young" ... "Life's too precious to waste it with regrets. Live for the future, don't dwell in the past" ... if he'd given up his dreams, part of his spirit would have been broken too. Being forced to run the restaurant for the rest of his life would have felt like being trapped in a cage, sealed with unbreakable bars of responsibility and duty to his family ... "You were right before, about not wasting time with regrets. I'm sorry for the way that decision affected my relationship with my grandparents, but that wasn't the life I wanted."

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"I grew up with my grandparents who had fairly traditional Terran views about relationships. I always thought I'd meet a girl, fall in love, get married, then start a family with her."

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*My grandfather never called me 'son',* John finally said, gazing into the distance. *It wasn't done out of malice, I think he just didn't want to be presumptuous.* He laughed and shook his head. *As if I'd begrudge the man something like that after everything he did for me.* *Did that colonist remind you of your grandfather?* Edraele asked softly, already knowing the answer. *No,* John replied with a sad smile. *But if my actual father was Terran, he would've been about the same age... When he called me 'son', it felt like a hammer blow to the chest.* Shaking his head, he continued, *I don't understand why I'm still so desperate to find out about my mother and father... it's like I need to know. They took no interest in me for the last forty years and my obsession with finding out about my parents feels like I'm betraying my grandparents' memory. They were there for me... they actually cared...*

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John winced and cupped her face. "I'm really sorry, honey. I just... I can't help feeling the way I do. I was brought up to be respectful towards women and my grandparents would probably be appalled at me lording it over a harem! The balance in our relationship is so skewed in my favour, it's ridiculous... and I can't help feeling guilty, especially when you and the rest of the girls are all so loving with me."

ch119

"My situation with my grandparents was similar, although I'm not trying to claim it was anything like your horrific childhood. I spent eighteen years with them and was happy for the most part, but when I signed up with the military instead of running the restaurant, I really hurt them both. I felt so guilty about crushing their dreams that I stayed away and didn't see much of them afterwards... so it used to be my home, but I couldn't really go back."

ch83

"I started as a junior officer, a Second Lieutenant just like any trainee officer. I worked my way up the ranks by caring for the men and women under my command, fighting and bleeding alongside them as we defended the Terran Federation." Glancing at the girls, he added, "Nothing's changed in that regard; I'm still fighting for what I believe in, except that the battles are bigger, the threats more dangerous. Luckily for me, I'm blessed with an incredible crew who share my beliefs" ... "It's only by working together that we've been able to achieve the things we have. If you really wish to honour me today, share that wonderful spirit of cooperation with each other. It's an ethos that I've learned from my service to the Terran Federation and it guides my actions every day" ... "I won't bore you with a long speech - I've always been better at fighting than talking" ... "I'll just end by saying this: I've sailed around the galaxy and met hundreds of different species - but do you know who I'd always want at my side?" After a brief pause he grinned at the mass of military personnel. "All of you! Humanity's best and brightest!" ... "For the Glory of Terra!"

After reading the disastrous end of this chapter, before reading the next have waited many months with dread for the fate of those we have come to know and care. Am now moving on and hoping.

every binge archive dreading this point - not Faye! the organics have a chance, but a hard crash of her server ...

Two issues:

First, to PLRus (John Lewis) I am having an issue with comparing this epic saga with the actual events regarding the Tudor family! As one of the last surviving members of the Devereux family my family has had nothing but grief from the “Tudors”from Q E 1 on!!! The only connection I see is their nastiness which would relate to the Progenitor battles with each other, (YES)!!!! (if you want to converse about this; )[ps:still interested in mile club]

Tefler: I am having an issue with Amazon!!! I have only been able to get volume 1&2 in paperback(only). The rest have been kindle! I am hoping you will release a FIRST EDITION HARD BACK EDITION!!! with all illustrations etc. I am waiting (patiently [I hope]) for this but I realize we must finish this saga first, then go on to the sequel!!

I realize I have a fetish for paper but I like holding a real book in my hand!!!

(Coming from someone who has a library of over 50,000 books)

Thank you very much for such an entertaining (words don’t properly describe your epic production as a mere production) masterpiece!!!

Wolrab🐝

Holy Fuck!

This story just keeps getting better

Sounds like your browser skipped page 9 for some reason.

Tefler

Chapter #120, between pages 9 and 10 is a huge what the phuq gap of information! You go from John and the girls landing in the area, to him sitting on the ramp cradling his mother in his arms. What the hell man?😩

It's up!

Being moderated

Start breathing into the paper bag, Chapter 121 is in moderation.

Is now in moderation, so presumably live on 19/07/02 or for the Americans 07/02/19 at UTZ 06:05 plus or minus 10 minutes.

PSA

If I remember correctly, take the web address for a chapter like 120, and change the 120 to 121, then send your browser to that address and see what comes up. If it’s a 404 error, then Literotica hasn’t started moderating it yet. If it’s in moderation, you get a response that says it is in moderation.

And remember, once Tefler submits the chapter, the timing is up to Literotica, Tefler has no control.

all you do to check is go to the http in the address bar and change the number 120 to 121. but it appears not to have been proccessed yet

Thank you thank you thank you very very very very very very very very very very very very much much appreciated. Can't wait to read....... it's been a while.......... sure it's going to be The Best yet........

As always Tefler thank you

Thank you Tefler for posting the next chapter. I cannot wait until it’s approved so I can read it!

How to check if 121 has been submitted for moderation or not?

I've submitted chapter 121 for moderation, so hopefully it should be up on the site in the next couple of days.

Tefler

Youll just be charged for whatever chapters get released after you become a patron and i think maybe the once just for joining? i cant remember it was awhile ago

I am looking to join Telfer's patreon site but am not sure if I will end up paying for all the chapter already posted or just the new ones. Can anyone explain it to me? Thank you.

Tom

Heya, I'm thinking about supporting Tef on Patreon but had a quick question about the pledge levels. If I pledge $2 per, will I be charged $2 for all previously released chapters or only ones after signing up? I'm really interested in the artwork...;)

mister what seem to be the problem say something we dying here,the story has been a huge part of us we are truly blessed to have you and the story so plz say anything plllllllllzzzzzzz pretty pllllllzzz with a cherry on top

MR. T,

I cant wait for you to post the next chapter so I can give it a high score, your work is amazing and the cliffhanger could not be better. Even thought I joined patreon to read the story ahead of what is released its an even bigger plus. The art, pictures, new chapters is a plus. The discord chatroom where we bounce alternative action off each other and what may or may not happen is exhilarating. So many people with so many thoughts, lots of them are pretty deep and make sense where some are so far fetched it is funny. but hey, its your rodeo and we can only come along for the ride and wait for the next masterpiece to be posted. Thank goodness we have free reads and reads where for a few $$ we can get ahead. Thanks for keeping us on our toes and salivating for the next chapter... looking forward to enjoying my next free read...

Tefler mentioned in Discord that he planned to get 121 submitted tomorrow and hopes it will be up this weekend

Guys, Tefler has an update on Patreon and he was on Discord for a bit tonight on General. He said he will be releasing 121 her for the weekend.

Tefler popped up on the discord site and said there that 121 could be submitted tomorrow, so it will be really soon now to come in the wild here I hope. That is if he does not forget it...

He posted at 6:52 EST. on Patreon that he was burnt out and needed some time off. He is back writing but I don't know when he will post 121 here, hopefully it will be soon.

Just saw a update on Patreon. 123 should be out on June 30.

Earlier I was reading some boring story and hitting refresh about every hour hoping to see something "New" on the Author's Submission Tab. I drift off in my chair.....floating. Then bam, I awake from a lucid dream and there is a second Invictus entering the system from hyperwarp. Twenty four coruscating tachyon lances open full topside.... Then I fully awake wondering... What in the hell just happened?

Suspecting a trap, Calera had a vision. She worked with Dana to come up with some countermeasures. It seems a psychic decoy was sent ahead into the system of the last known location of a progenitor.

I don't know if this is what really happens, at least that is what happened in my dream. I feel compelled to write this comment, because something is off and I can't quite put my finger on it. Something about Jade, Faye, Calera and Dana. Nine lives.... waiting to get with the four little kittens. Hmmmm!

Earthdate: 20190626 0327 Uniform Local Time Zone

Heading to bed.

hillcountrycowboy - I too am in the Central Time Zone of the US. My mild OCD has me on Lit at 1 second past 2am local time, hitting the refresh on my Lit Authors Activity feed, if you were interested in the exact time new stories are posted to the site.

As for Patreon, I'm not worried about TSM going Patreon only. It's the promised sequel we seem to be on a collision course with, that worries me. If Tefler can get more readers to pay from Ch 1 on, the sequel might not be shared on Lit.

My hope is that Tefler is still feeling generous enough to, at the very least, continue as things are now, in general. Perhaps the compromise will be that the interval will be more than the current 2 chapter buffer between Patreon and Lit postings, even as high as 5, but once it reaches critical mass on Patreon postings, as it were, the first will be posted on Lit. This way, Tefler makes more in subs, and the beggars like me can keep enjoying the fruits of Tefler's labors.

Final Word

Stop griping about Patreon and Patreon subscribers!!! If not for them, Tefler would not be able to put out new chapters anywhere near as fast as the current pace. It would probably be 2-3 months between chapters, so for the love of little green apples, let those willing pay to read their chapters earlier than us keep paying (but please stop dropping hints about future chapters, it's juvenile.) Without them, Tefler would probably still be on chapter 50 or something!

End Rant...

There is no new information on Patreon. Patron's have not had any update's since the 5th. No one who is commenting on Patreon knows any more than the reader's here.

Tefler has not posted chapter 123 or even given an estimate on when he plans on turning it in to the editors on the Patreon site and Lit is usually 2 chapters behind. His last comment was dated on the 6th where he added a scene and tweaked a couple of others based on feedback for 122.

Everyone there is speculating as to what has happened to him as well as he normally give a status update by the 20th which has come and gone. He is probably on a vacation or maybe has a bit of a writers block or burnout. We can't say he is not producing pretty regularly and not just a page or two per chapter.

Just be patient or if you can't wait sign up to Patreon.

Something is up, but it’s not #121. It has been a great story, i hope it continues.

If you keep flapping your lips about how long it takes for the man to write his story and post it here for free, you might just piss him off enough to stop posting here altogether.

So...please. Be patient.

Let's recap shall we...... ;)

Tefler leaves chapter 120 in the biggest cliffhanger in the stories history, then disappears for 8 weeks. Considering Tefler usually releases a chapter every 14-18 days here, in 56 days he'd usually have 3-4 chapters. This of course drives the rabid fan base absolutely nuts.

The whiners come out complaining about when the next chapter will post, or threatening ( like that would work).

The apologists come out lambasting the whiners and praising Tefler.

The conspiracy theorists start discussing plot points and trying to guess where Tefler is going next with the story. (Fascinating reading all the plot points I missed & the theories.)

Some jerks from patron come by to drop hints about the content of 121 & 122 while also insulting the whiners to really stir the pot.

Finally there's the popcorn crowd sitting back and watching the insanity.

Sorry, I couldn't resist posting, ya'll are hilarious! Thank you, you've made the wait entertaining!

Points to ponder.....

1. The rabid fan base actually makes patron possible.

2. Insulting any part of the fan base doesn't actually stop whatever activity you're insulting.

3. Tefler has been publishing roughly 30,000 words bi-weekly for more than 3 years. We all need recharge time.

Back to your regularly scheduled comments....Please continue.....

Don't know if it's Tefler or if it is the Literotica management, but TWO MONTHS without updates is not normal, something definitely changed

*Re : I DON'T want access to unfinished chapters. It's a conundrum.*

The amount of revisions to current chapters after they are posted is low.

A dozen typos, mostly in second half of chapter which is posted at same time that editors see it.

Some small fixes or additional scenes.

The readers that care about smol things do find lists of issues. From their results you will expect the editors to be fired every chapter.

Tefler as with all of us, take holidays/vacations to have work life balance, to recharge ... Etc

As much as impatience sets in, I am just glad to be NOT left hanging with no indication of whats next (too many stories have that due to various reasons - with many just abandoned)

Tefler - thank you

There's a pretty good chance that Tefler is seeing a surge in patronage (patreonage?) and by delaying the next episode he's getting readers to consider the value of his work. To which I say, "fuck yeah!" Tefler's gotsta get paid.

I am not currently a patron, but man, I'd like to see the technical drawings of the Invictus and, well, a few other drawings as well. The thing is, I DON'T want access to unfinished chapters. It's a conundrum.

The list I mentioned in an earlier post is by Alxy, and is on page 3 of the comments. Sorry I blanked earlier and didn’t give you credit, Alxy.

On the Discord page it is mentioned that Tefler said on Patreon that he and his family wre on a holiday, and that he did not complete the first part of 123, it is not even sent to the editors.

Well now we know a bit more about the delay of 121 here.

I've loved the story so far and will definitely continue to love it. The wait is a tad bit frustrating, but only because I've gotten used to how often you post. I hope 121 will be out soon, and I'll keep waiting. I know you have your reasons for the time.

-Alex

I’m checking hourly for Tefler’s comment saying he has sent the new chapter to Literotica for moderation. Once he does that, Literotica usually posts it in 24-72 hours. Seems like it usually posts around 3:00am here in the Central time zone of the US. (We’re about 5 hours behind Greenwich) When we get the message it’s gone in for moderation, I usually read the previous chapter again to get back up to speed, and to make the joy and anticipation of a new chapter last a little longer.

In order to pass the time, I went back and re-read the last three chapters. I was very surprised at the details I had forgotten or had overlooked. As a for instance, twice Faye intended to mention something she had seen to John, but didn’t. For Tefler to have mentioned it twice makes me think it’s some crucial detail. And if it’s crucial, then it’s likely Faye must survive somehow in order to provide this important clue. That’s my hope anyway!! Another commentator (so sorry, my mind has gone blank on the name!) has made a wonderful list of all the unresolved plot threads. You might take a look at that list, then review a little so your ready for the bonanza Tefler is going to drop in our laps.

I wish the idiots would quit stirring the pot. Tefler has promised to post the entire story here and people need to quit bitching about something they’re getting for free.

Thank you, Tefler!

holy shit, you guys are still waiting for 121 to come out?! id be fucking dying as it almost killed me to wait for 121. jump over to patreon and even if its only $1 per ch. its still well worth it... 123 is due out in a few days

Well I find the waiting period a nice time, seeing all kinds of people going crazy from withdrawal. Quite amusing if I may say so.

However, I also want 121 out here, but I think Tefler is holding it back due to the fact that 122 and 123 must mesh with 121 and correcting a chapter here is as some say an pain in the (Not to be mentioned part of te human anatomy).

I know many of you realize how much of a non-issue, waiting a month actually is. How many other authors do you follow in here that might not update more than three times a year, but you are spoiled by Tefler updates as often as 3 per month.

To be honest, I would advise Tefler to write ahead several chapters so that the sequel will have a few months cushion.

Cliff hanger syndrome is an awful but it isn't fatal. You will survive and be stronger when the pain has healed.

I think that this will be the last of Tefler in Literotica.

The story on Patreon is at 122 chapters

I think after this event with the Invictus being cleaved in two it would be a good idea to install a mini power core in Faye's server so that she never gets shut down like his again. Alternately make an off site backup of her server so if she ever needs to she can "jump ship" as she is the most vulnerable of the crew.

The reason I joined Literotica was because I wanted to favorite Tefler’s work.

Your story is the greatest epic since Star Wars, Tefler - please keep it going. This last cliffhanger is burning me up.

Its actually a positive people being so impatient for the next instalment. Shows just how much the stories have stirred peoples emotions.

I personally wish they would hurry up and appear also but the anticipation makes it soooo much sweeter when they arrive.

Thank you Tefler for teaching us all a lesson as welk as providing us with brilliant reading.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were a "Jo Blo" kill count video on how many fan's heads exploded waiting for 121 to come out. ROFL

Yup, it's official. The addicts are going nuts. This cliffhanger is masterful btw...

If things follow the same course the last time Teffler posted a double chapter in here, then the next chapter 123 will be published on patron first before we receive the double 121/122 chapter published here.. all I can say is eagerly anticipating the double offering we are getting next time on literotica.

Personally speaking, if it's anything like the last time Teffler published a double chapter, we will all be in TSM coma overload after we read it. Then go back to reread it again... just chilling. Waiting like a kid before Christmas Day. Now.. you know it's coming.. the anticipation is excillerating..

I'm. Not complaining on this wait. I love your work and am waiting patiently for the next chapter. Those who can't wait subscribe to his patreon. I follow several stories that are still ongoing. Telfer than you for the work you've put out and I trust your editors and self to post when you feel the next chapter is ready.

Thank you Tefler so much for this amazing story I'm a space fanatic and I just started reading a few months ago and I just got to this point in the story and when I saw it end I almost had a nervous break down bc I thought it was ending and I'm happy to see that it's still going... thank you so much for this story keep on doing your thing

There is another scene expected for 122.

It is almost done.

Tefler! The TSM junkies withdrawal symptoms are going off the charts. Hopefully, you can provide a fix before things go to critical mass.

Me? I'm good. Just sitting back, feet propped, pop corn ready, favorite drink in hand while watching the TSM version of Rome burn. Someone pass me the marshmallows.

From Patreon:

Apr 8 - Status update that FIRST half of 121 sent to editors

Apr 16 - Released FIRST half of 121 on Patreon

May 7 - Status update that SECOND half of 121 set to editors

May 10 - Released SECOND half of 121 on Patreon

May 22 - Released combined 121 on Patreon

May 29 - Status update that FIRST half of 122 sent to editors (First half were Tefler's words)

May 31 - Released (FIRST half of?) 122 on Patreon

Based on this schedule, is it not possible that there will be a SECOND half to 122 yet being written? And, if so, 121 may not be released to Lit and SOL until after 122 is complete?

So, potentially, more patience is required.

Full Disclosure: I am not a Patreon member, this is my own speculation.

Tefler commented on May 16th about posting 121 after 122 was edited and posted. The final edit and post just came out on June 5th so keep in mind that Tefler's editor's and he have been working on 122 until the final edit came out on the 5th. I know all people won't care or be satisfied but he puts forth a lot of effort for you to get a quality finished story here on Lit as well as patreon. Hopefully 121 will be posted here soon.

Oh my!!!!

Came for the fan theories and left because of the cry babies. No one owes you anything. Also I have been listening to the Ark Royal audiobooks to scratch my sci-fi itch, not nearly as naughty but I am enjoying it.

I want it, I want it, I want it!

*throws tantrum*

*stamps foot*

*kicks pebble*

Maaan - it's no fun to be an adult. That stuff worked so well in the candy isle, for instance, back when.

...

I might be remenbering that wrong...

but tefler did say (page 3 comments) that 121 will be posted here after he finished writing 122..an update regarding 121 here on lit from tef would be very much appreciated

It may well be that Tefler is moving to a two chapters ahead on Patreon model going forward, but that hasn’t been the case in the past. If it was, this chapter would not have been posted immediately after chapter 121 part 1 hit Patreon.

Orcwords

Quote: "Chapter 121 is a double-size one (61k words) and has been completed, but I haven't finished editing it yet. I'll publish it here when I've written chapter 122."

122 has been published on Patreon June 1. Well, let's wait and see...

Just another reader passing through to check if Tefler has commented about the release of 121. Just checking, per usual.

Tefler you have done phenomenal work. Very rare writers write so consistently as you do. We will wait, whatever it takes. Keep writing Sir 👍

121 will go up here when 123 goes up on the patreon, just like every other chapter it will drop here when the patreon is 2 chapters ahead. There is no "if", tefler has stated REPEATEDLY that the whole story will be posted here for us.

Tefler usually lets us know when he’s submitted a chapter for moderation. It usually posts 24-48 hours after that, around 2 or 3 AM, eastern time zone in the US.

on Patreon.com I believe. I'm not sure when or if they will be posted here? - John

Tefler I really appreciate your effort and your continued story. Your doing a great job and I have continues to follow this story I check Dailey to see if anything new has been posted I’m very glad to hear that the next parts will be posted soon. Thank you for your hard work.

Well. I'm considering zoning out at home, my cold drink in hand and s l o w l y take in all of chapter 121..no doubt my drink won't be cold when I'm engrossed in the next chapter the price of waiting is worth it.... as they say, good things come to those who wait...

Is this really the end of the story .? ...

Did any one survive ? Were they able to regroup ?

Wonderful adventures,! Please let us know that they were able to limp on and once again become a family . We want them to fulfill their plans and dreams.

EVIL MUST NOT WIN.!!

Well said, Fredant. Having received such enjoyment for so long by this author from this story and it’s characters which have become like friends, can find nothing about which to complain. When chapter 121 is finally available, I probably will not read it immediately. Rather, intend to await a time and a place to relax, totally concentrate, and enjoy what promises to be a treat. Will say, however, that I am concerned about the possibility of losing anyone and for that matter the Invictus itself. We will see. 🚀

hey tefler love the series been following it for a year now can’t get enough

just hoping for an. update on 121 or 121 itself

"All previous Progenitors have fallen to their guides, the sole partial exception being Mael'nerak who after millennia managed to defeat his guide and recover himself."

This seems to be a common misconception. Progenitors don't fall to their guides, their guides cease to exist after they teach all they can. They go bye bye. That's why Athena was terrified of being absorbed into Alyssa, it was effectively dieing. By the time of Mael's damascene conversion his guide was long gone. In fact I think Larn might be on his way to his own damascene conversion

at least this story has continued and most likely will continue. I read the stories by JazCullen and she quit writing leaving it hanging at a critical part of the story. I compare her writing to Tefler's and have even bought a couple of her books and now there is no ending. I don't think Tefler will do that to us.

For everyone concerned that chapter 121 won't be posted here, Tefler has stated in this comment thread that he will be posting it here so stop worrying.

At the same time, the fact that he's combined his biggest cliffhanger with the longest gap in over three years of publishing here has obviously made people antsy. Part of the problem is that the choice of publishing 120 here as soon as 121 part 1 was published on Patreon extended the delay, especially as he has waited until after 122 part 2 (not counting the extra scene) and still hasn't published 121 here. Effectively, we got 120 early and now we're dealing with the fallout.

Getting on to the story, I agree with that the Progenitors are a created race, as that's obvious from a number of things including the gender imbalance and the existence of the guides.

I would also posit that the guide is the true big bad for this series. I don't think John has to defeat his guide to take on Larn'kelnar but rather the opposite. All previous Progenitors have fallen to their guides, the sole partial exception being Mael'nerak who after millennia managed to defeat his guide and recover himself.

Going further, I expect the proposed nineteen years later sequel will be about John and Alyssa's son's fight against the original programmer of the guides (which I believe may be related to the threats in the Astral Plane).

I don't know if you are trolling, but bitching about someone who has given us 120 amazing chapters for free, is mind boggling.

Name one other author on Lit who has delivered so much in terms of quantity AND quality.

If it is another week or month or even a year, I for one will wait patiently. In the end Tefler ows us nothing and even if he did decide not to post on Lit again (for which there is no evidence to support), that is his right.

So just chill dude.

DUDE! your killing us with this cliffhanger!!!! If you were going to do a cliffhanger, this was the time. Everyone is chewing finger nails, checking back in to see if the next chapter has been posted. It's like hanging out for an urgently needed drug hit!

I've reread the series multiple times and I still cant get enough. Fucking kudos man. Kudos.

Question. Regarding chapter titles, do you explain their meaning on patron? Some of the titles still escape me as to their implied meaning. I know it's a little thing but I'm curious. Like this chapter. 9 lives. Is it because jade and her sisters are 'cats' or because there are 9 lives at stake (excluding faye as she would make 10).

Tefler posts his stories here for free generally around a month after he posts it on Patreon for those who financially support him and his writing. The link to his page is in his bio. I just appreciate that he has continued to post here for those of us too poor to contribute financially instead of being a greedy bastard and only finishing the story for those who pay. Chapter 121 combined posted May 22, so I’m really looking forward to the end of June when it will hopefully post here. Chapter 120 ended on such a cliffhanger the wait is painful, but still better than waiting years between books like many authors *cough*George R. R. Martin*cough*.

Can you please give us an idea when the next chapter will be uploaded? Please please please....

I think larn is not going to kill any of the progenitors... If he wanted to do that he could have easily done that months ago.

A thought occurred to me, if I am not wrong John in earlier chapter mentioned that he can control if he wants a baby boy or girl. And he can choose if his child be a progenitor or not. If that is so then rahn purposely made John a progenitor. I think that John being able to control his progenitor side is not just because of his meditation thing. It might have helped but I sense rahn might also have some contribution in that.

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Hi Tefler, thank you. Don't take too long, I hate waiting. Where is my next chapter? Three square meals belongs to the world.

I really cannot say a lot about the next chapter as it is a double length chapter. Not sure if Tefler is going to release it as one chapter or two here...though I suspect the latter. Get your tissue paper ready either way...this one is loaded with feels.

Do not be fooled by the trolls that say Tefler is no longer going to post here. I have personally spoken at length with him about this on a phone conversation and he has repeatedly over the years said he is committed fully to finishing this book here for you all. He really is that generous of a guy. And anyone who says different, like those lamenting he is treating it like a business....get a grip...you are getting it for free. When Tefler decides to post he will...and you will still enjoy it and you will still get it for free...Even those who are unappreciative of his generosity.

And to those complaining about getting this epic story for free...get a grip and get some release for your frustrations, or cough up $1 a month...less than the price of a coke in any size...and you can read the finished chapter right now....

No, not rubbing it in anyone's face, don't mean to antagonize...just stating you need to either have patience or go the other route...whining, complaining, bitching, groaning, and all the other tomfoolery is just a bit childish. Many of us paying patrons just cannot understand where some of the more caustic comments come from...well, except for those Jealous authors and their minions, of course.

Remember, patience is a virtue best practiced in silence.

Rus, PLRus, PussylickersRus, John Lewis...take your pick.

Just been reading all the comments starting from beginning and somehow missed

Tefler’s comment, “No one's correctly guessed the truth behind the backstory with the Progenitors yet!”

My take on the matter would be:

As all Progenitors are male they were originally a created race!

The Astral sub-plane is a tempering site for all Progenitors to harden their conquest and dominion skills, that they can more easily dominate the area of the galaxy(s) they decide to conquer!

Larn'kelnar, by kidnapping Rahn'hagon and then John he has an agenda, and I think it might be trying to force the two of them to become subordinate to him.

In trying to force his way on John it will come out that John has never subjugated the Malari and actually has a more powerful base than Larn'kelnar has.

This will lead to a damascene revelation especially with Ailanthia’s new significance in their relationship, with the changes she has undergone as well as being pregnant. This will have an unintended effect and bring him to respect John’s philosophy of peaceful coexistence for the betterment of all races, and might even include Larn'kelnar’s thrall race.

Wolrab🐝

Within these comments, others have raised the question "Why didn't Rhan take the ship Jessica returned in to escape Arcadia." Well, it strikes me those questions are making a big assumption: that he wanted to escape. Think about it: he SENT Jessica back to Earth with child and guided her back once she delivered (Jessica says he was talking to her all along..if she's telling the truth).

Sorta seems to me Rhan was right where he wanted to be. Question is, why? Does Arcadia have unrevealed secrets? Something worth protecting? Cultivating? Spectacular sunsets?

Nope. they just made me mad enough to post this time lol

May I remind everyone that, regardless of OUR expectations, Tefler's life runs on "Tefler time." We have no way of knowing what is happening 'back-stage' in Tefler's life. "Patience Grasshopper the sun will rise again tomorrow".

Post the next chapter. I’m completely on edge waiting for how this is gonna play out!

LOl you dont read the comment that often do you? Tef has said MANY times he will finish the story here.

Over and over and over and over ( you get the idea ) that he is going to keep posting here. I don't know why people keep making statements to the contrary. I am a patron as well as I still read the finished chapters here. Tefler has never stated he will stop posting here, if that changes we will all hear about it on patreon and here.

What “grapevine” is ANONYMOUS listening to?? Don’t be stupid. Tefler has been nothing but up front with his readers here. Just because you’re getting impatient waiting for a story YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR, don’t start making shit up. If Tefler ever did decide to stop giving his story away for free it most likely would be due to fools spreading bullshit.

Tefler don't give up on those who read for free. Many more who are willing to pay may yet find you through this masterpiece. So Keep posting here till this story reaches its end. Whatever it takes ......

Anony saying "Heard on the grapevine" is completely wrong.

Anony saying "Been reading since ch 01, and now removing the Patreon" is completely selfish.

Tef has NEVER said he's going to stop releasing here.

No doubt after the last cliff ending chapter 120, it's going to be full on in chapter 121.. patience young grasshoppers, the master shall reveal his next exhilarating chapter in due course.. meditates..

"Sure, eventually progenitors merge with their guides, but that's the thing, isn't it? That "guide" is something outside them and by merging the progenitor accepts the power and the restrictions of the guide."

That has never been stated. In fact Athena said guides are part of their very DNA. It's not "outside" them. I also doubt there are "restrictions" placed on progenitors. I imagine guides simply encourage the progenitors to follow their instincts, along with teaching them to use their powers and create their tech.

The only reason John is able to resist those instincts and isn't a murderous enslaving genocidal bastard is because he was raised by his human grandparents and suppressed his guide through meditation and martial arts. Which caused his guide to go insane, as Athena mentioned.

Zeb _Carter is an author here. Has a range of stories to peruse, try reading them while Teffler publishes the next chapter..

Curb thy anxiety, greenhoppers. Normally the Great Master of Cliffhangers usually known as Tefler releases a new chapter here after at a minimum waiting time of 14 days to get all the kinks out of the chapter. Patreon has two functions: first to earn him money and second to correct errors in continuity, bad sentences, unclear scenes and so on. This revision is needed, no story is completely without errors. Even books that have many reprints do contain errors, even after centuries of correcting them.

So have some peace and get ready for waiting without punishing the F5 until the GMCukaT releases his "pressrelease" that it is in the queue for publishing it here. Then it will take usually about two to three days to become public about 6:05 GMT.

Here's me refreshing my page every minute.

Yes, I’m on tenterhooks too, about to go out of my mind. But we have been spoiled lately, with three chapters coming out in short succession and faster than usual. And if this new chapter is another double length one, about 20 Literotica pages long, then we have a wonderful treat coming our way.

Thanks for sharing your awesome tale with us here on Literotica Tefler! Please excuse our trembles and jerks as we jones for the next chapter to bring us relief!

chapters are usually roughly every two weeks and the one you around about to get is a double chapter hence the month its taken. trust me its worth the wait

There hasn't been a month which missed a chapter before. We're in uncharted territory now.

It's true!! Sadly Tefler's unprecedented streak of releasing at least one chapter a month has ended at 40 months. How he somehow managed to maintain this through moving and many other events in his life is amazing. It's too bad, it would have been awesome to see it continue.

I can't remember there ever being a whole month that didn't have at least one chapter put out on literotica. My memory may be wrong. Can anyone list a previous month that didn't have at least one chapter?

When can we expect more chapters of this story? M

Yes, 122 has dropped on Patreon, but is missing one scene which Tefler will add to in the coming days. That means that 121 will be out here in about a fortnight but it may take a way longer...

I hope that 123 will be started soon, but with the holidays coming up and working from home...

chapter 122 has now dropped so 121 should not be too far away here.

Please hurry up and update this ,I want to eat my next meal.

Been way too long

First half of 122 is edited. Second half is pending.

Tefler sent 2and half of 122 to the editors at patreon

Hi everyone !

Tefler has stated on Patreon that he plans to release chapter 122 by friday the 30th. If he keeps his deadline, we should have a bit to read for the weekend... If not, probably early june !

How close is 122 to being done

Has no one else thought about the repercussions of finding out who John’s father is?!?! Through the whole story there’s very little learned about progenitors except that they’re all constantly fighting each other. The only one we know anything about us is dead. Rahn'hagon Is John’s father. And we know nothing about him except that he fought, and apparently survived if not won against, the other progenitor ( sorry, I’m having a brain fart to his name). Anyway, Rahn is alive and has all the answers to every question asked about progenitors. So does Larn too for that matter. And even though John and Eahn are now prisoners held by Larn, we have an opportunity to learn more about progenitors in general and John’s personal story, via Rahn, now. So is this going to be addressed in the next chapter or 3?

All, I too am jonesing for the next chapter, but Tefler has already stated that it won't get here until 122 is completed and out on Patreon.... That just means we have find something productive to do to occupy our eager minds. I know, stating the obvious. Once it post of Patreon then we can really start salivating. Me, I have started at the battle for Terra to see what other possible twists that I might have missed. Good luck to us all and thanks Tefler for sharing with us.

Why would I want to do that? It's a comic... Okay, a visual novel, but still, not a text novel. And it's in Korean and I've seen the quality of the subs. I've been seeing a lot of this type of comment, advertising something or other (usually a Korean webcomic) in the comments of Tefler's stories, while pretending to be a harmless recommendation. Stop that.

Any update for the next chapter release?

Will there be 4th of July fireworks? My fingernails need to grow faster.

Impatiently waiting ..... Tic tock, tic tock.

Fan of the Lion

Tefler has his Patreon site listed under his bio.

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What is the discord site

And how do you join

If the next chapter doesn't come out soon, I just might die...

Hey that rhymes!! Lol

Sure, eventually progenitors merge with their guides, but that's the thing, isn't it? That "guide" is something outside them and by merging the progenitor accepts the power and the restrictions of the guide. A progenitor who never merges is unencumbered.

This story is a lot about leveling up, like a video game. The beauty of the story is that John has distributed his power, achieving a level of trust with his friends that he can offer them fantastic power. So each level-up is amplified because a dozen people level up each time. That multiplicative effect is what will allow our homie to challenge the real boss.

So the guide is supposed to teach the progenitor about his powers and technology and start him on the path of building an empire. Knowing that the progenitors are equally combative with each other as they are in establishing their empires, wouldn’t the guide also teach the progenitor about fighting against their own kind? Obviously John has not had the normal relationship with his guide, but the guide does have a self preservation instinct and has worked with John in order to survive. It seems to me that this is another situation where John and his guide’s interests should align. So if John is incapacitated, would the guide take over? If John is still conscious, would his guide dump information he needs to fight another progenitor? And lastly, if John’s guide does give over this information, would that be the last step John would need to overcome the guide and absorb it into John’s mind vs the guide taking over John’s mind?

Again, I’m just speculating while waiting for the next chapter to drop.

Thank you Mr. Tefler and respectfully,

JAFCritic

Yeah, I think my original comment was wrong. I expect every Progen would have a guide, but John mentally imprisoned his. That was the ethereal crown that Edraele saw on John when she astral walked around him. Larn's and Rath's guides should have long merged with their guides though.